Saudi Arabia Typhoon combat aircraft, viewed from the front

They say: If we didn’t do it…

A common, terribly flawed, argument used to justify arms sales says that if we didn't do it, someone else would. This is not just immoral; it is also not true that UK weapons could be easily replaced. Stopping the sales would help stop the war.

Last updated 5 October 2020

Responding to your MP

Argument

If we didn’t do it, someone else would

They say:

There would be no shortage of less responsible countries willing to sell arms if we refused to – such a ban would only therefore cost jobs in the UK and remove whatever restraints we can put in place.

Response

Morality of the argument

This is a common argument used to justify the arms trade, but the morality of it is very questionable, not least because the same argument could be made for selling weapons to absolutely anybody – including Iran, Zimbabwe, Russia or any other oppressive regime that the UK rightly does not arm. And would the same MPs and government ministers also advance this argument to justify other behaviour that causes harm?

How could it be ‘less responsible’?

The attacks, using UK arms, have had a devastating impact. It is hard to see how the situation would be worse if it was another “less responsible” country supplying arms to Saudi Arabia instead.

Tens of thousands have been killed as a direct result of the violence, the majority of deaths caused by bombing by the Saudi-led coalition. Hundreds of thousands more people face hunger and disease, as a result of what the UN has called the world’s worst humanitarian disaster. In November 2018, Save the Children estimated that 85,000 children may have died from extreme hunger or disease since April 2015.

UK arms don’t impose restraints

There is no evidence that UK arms sales have given the UK meaningful influence over Saudi behaviour, or the conduct of the war. In fact they have the opposite effect, allowing Saudi Arabia to buy almost unquestioning political support from the UK.

If we didn’t do it, we could stop the war

Finally, it is just not true that if the UK decided to limit arms sales to Saudi Arabia, then it could just buy weapons from elsewhere. Saudi Arabia’s airforce is supplied by the UK and US, with UK-made Tornado and Typhoons playing a central role in the bombing, pilots trained by the UK and with UK staff providing training and support in the UK and in Saudi Arabia.

You can’t just swap out the missiles that are used in U.S. planes for suddenly using Chinese and Russian missiles. It takes decades to build your air force. It’s not something you do in one fell swoop.

Rachel Stohl, managing director of the Conventional Defense Program at the Stimson Center, quoted in the Intercept

The UK and US could, if they chose to, ground the Saudi Air Force within days. That they choose not to is a clear demonstration of how the interests of arms companies are prioritised over human rights and security.

Other arguments

Cardboard sign with words UK makes a "killing" by selling weapons and arms. In front of a poster with a warrior fighting vehicle and a soldier masked with a helmet.

War crimes

"The UK government doesn't allow arms to be sold where they will be used to violate international humanitarian law"

Eurofighter Typhoon large outdoor poster captioned Effective, proven, trusted. Flats behind include German, Spain, Italy UK

Influence

"Arms exports give the UK influence over Saudi behaviour"

Other arguments

Debunking the government's justifications for continued arms sales

Eurofighter Typhoon large outdoor poster captioned Effective, proven, trusted. Flats behind include German, Spain, Italy UK

They say: Arms exports give influence

The UK government claims arms sales give it influence over Saudi Arabia. If this is so, it is very hard to see where this is having an effect. Instead, we can see that when Saudi Arabia buys UK arms, it also buys political support and silence about its abuses.

Cardboard sign with words UK makes a "killing" by selling weapons and arms. In front of a poster with a warrior fighting vehicle and a soldier masked with a helmet.

They say: UK arms aren’t used in war crimes

The UK government claims it doesn't allow arms to be sold where they will be used to violate international humanitarian law - but this is simply not true. It claims war crimes in Yemen are 'isolated incidents' but there are documented patterns of violations by the Saudi-led coalition.

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